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Reflections on a departed friend. These lyrics aren't mine, but I do love them, and hope I did them justice... So Far Away THANK YOU in advance for any time you invest in listening and/or commenting on this song. Lyrics: R.W. Davis Vocals: D.A. Hughes Music, arrangement, mix, master: must be me Style is _INSPIRE.STY (Inspire Cheery Indie Pop) RealTracks in style: 1253:Bass, Electric, PopShiningHeld Ev 120 RealTracks in style: 1262:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm PopShiningHeld Ev 120 (played by Waves Grand Rhapsody using BiaB MIDI transcript) RealTracks in style: ~405:Guitar, Acoustic, Strumming Ev 120 RealTracks in style: 634:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopAmericanMuted Ev 120 (B:8ths) Loop in Song: House-Techno-Trance\House - crunchy_120_b drums ev16.wav RealDrums in style:MetalSlowBigTomGroove: a: Toms, Snare b: Busy Big Toms, Snare I’m under the star-clustered sky Free from my mortal chains I lay in the grass and close my eyes As it begins to rain I can see you in my mind As if you were right beside me I know that that’s impossible It must just be the lightning You’ve gone so far away So far, that we can’t follow And even though we know we’ll see you again That doesn’t help our sorrow I’m alone and it’s so dark I can almost hear you calling But I know it’s wishful thinking It’s only the raindrops falling You’ve gone so far away (where to?) So far, that we can’t follow And even though we know we’ll see you again That doesn’t help our sorrow You’ve gone so very far away…………
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Nice rock/pop song with a really great arrangement and a great mix.
I love those drums, I think I'll have to try out that drum style in one of my next songs.
What I miss a bit is a climax or a direction in which the song tries to lead me (lyrically, however, it does).
Perhaps some more contrast between verse and chorus would already do the job.
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Great song, arrangement and mix. I really like the driving rhythm section.
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Well, this revelation came to me as I listened: R. W. Davis is becoming one of my favorite lyricists; then I realized that ALL of my favorites lyricists are on this forum. Great write to these words, Ron, and a fine production. I'd like to hear it with a different drummer --but isn't that cliche? HAHA. The Busy Big Toms seemed to detract from the sentiment.
Listened again, and now it seems those toms are definitely growing on me. I DO like how they drive the song. Such a good write and production with the perfect mix.
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Nice mix. Like the drums. Reminds me of something REM would do.
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Nice rock/pop song with a really great arrangement and a great mix. I love those drums, I think I'll have to try out that drum style in one of my next songs. What I miss a bit is a climax or a direction in which the song tries to lead me (lyrically, however, it does). Perhaps some more contrast between verse and chorus would already do the job. Thanks, B.D.! Those drums are likely a love-it-or-hate-it thing, but I like them in this context. Chose not to have a musical climax since the lyrics didn't easily lend themselves to one, but also because I interpreted the lyrics as a meditation, and I wanted to keep flipping the switch between minor/relative major to convey the thoughts of pain and joy while using the drums as a pulsebeat. But your critique is a fair one. Great song, arrangement and mix. I really like the driving rhythm section. THANK YOU, Chay! Well, this revelation came to me as I listened: R. W. Davis is becoming one of my favorite lyricists; then I realized that ALL of my favorites lyricists are on this forum. Great write to these words, Ron, and a fine production. I'd like to hear it with a different drummer --but isn't that cliche? HAHA. The Busy Big Toms seemed to detract from the sentiment. Listened again, and now it seems those toms are definitely growing on me. I DO like how they drive the song. Such a good write and production with the perfect mix. Marty, ha...Drummers! Glad you like it enough to give those drums a second chance! Yeah, R.W. is talented for sure, and the starting point for all of our songs. But lots of great lyricists here, as you note! THANKS for the listen! Nice mix. Like the drums. Reminds me of something REM would do. Oh, wow, any reference to REM is a great compliment. THANKS!!
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Ron,
Great song - the rhythm is mesmerizing. The vocals are excellent. Love the lyrics as well.
EXCELLENT!
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Ron,Great song - the rhythm is mesmerizing. The vocals are excellent. Love the lyrics as well. EXCELLENT! Bob Bob, so glad you liked it. THANKS for the listen!
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The drums sound so mighty fine in here! You did a masterful job putting this track together!
The vocal on this sounds really good also!
Your songs I've heard recently all have a great consistant high qulity sound!
Take care, TB
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Really nice collab! That is a fine dynamic mix you got there bro! Did you use my parallel mastering trick?? Or did Andrew Scheps do it for you?? 
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I really like the pulse of the Drums, the Mix, your vocals. The lyrics are great poetry. As a listener, I was anticipating a lift to a chorus ... but that did not happen. Otherwise great job!
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Ron...this is another really well done production in every aspect...DA is becoming one of my favorite singers on the forum and you always give us such a quality band to listen to....lyrically touching and poignant...yet upbeat at the same time...I feel like I'm supposed to say "I like the drums" also...my best...Dan
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Ron The drums sound so mighty fine in here! You did a masterful job putting this track together! The vocal on this sounds really good also! Your songs I've heard recently all have a great consistant high qulity sound! Take care, TB THANKS, Torrey! Man, your stuff sounds so great, it's a huge compliment to me when you think my stuff does. Glad you liked the tune! Really nice collab! That is a fine dynamic mix you got there bro! Did you use my parallel mastering trick?? Or did Andrew Scheps do it for you?? Ha! No, this was just me and my cheap headphones. Unfortunately, this one was in the can before your post on parallel mastering. Will try it out on the next one though. Thanks, David!
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I really like the pulse of the Drums, the Mix, your vocals. The lyrics are great poetry. As a listener, I was anticipating a lift to a chorus ... but that did not happen. Otherwise great job! Elliot, I'm a fan of going BIG on the chorus, but chose not to have a major lift here to maintain the meditative nature of the narrator's reflection. But a fair criticism. Glad you liked it otherwise! Ron...this is another really well done production in every aspect...DA is becoming one of my favorite singers on the forum and you always give us such a quality band to listen to....lyrically touching and poignant...yet upbeat at the same time...I feel like I'm supposed to say "I like the drums" also...my best...Dan Ha! Those DRUMS again...:) Dusty's a gift, and I'm SO glad he's singing these songs. The lyrics were a gift, too. When I read them for the first time I swallowed hard, knowing I didn't want to mess them up. Glad you liked it, Dan!
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“You’ve gone so far away (where to?)
So far, that we can’t follow
And even though we know we’ll see you again
That doesn’t help our sorrow”
Contemplative indeed.
Well done with the write, vocals and production.
Love those drums and the rhythm tracks grab you from the get go.
Great collab and tribute to your departed friend,
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Man what a rythm section - just memorizing. Great job. I liked the production throughout, but I really loved that "so very far away" echo at about 2:42. I've got to learn how to do that. Excellent stuff.
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“You’ve gone so far away (where to?) So far, that we can’t follow And even though we know we’ll see you again That doesn’t help our sorrow” Contemplative indeed. Well done with the write, vocals and production. Love those drums and the rhythm tracks grab you from the get go. Great collab and tribute to your departed friend, J&B J&B, so glad you liked it! I think of the lyrics as a prayer of sorts, but churning just below the surface is a primal scream. THANK YOU for the listen! Man what a rythm section - just memorizing. Great job. I liked the production throughout, but I really loved that "so very far away" echo at about 2:42. I've got to learn how to do that. Excellent stuff. Brad Brad, knew the drums were going to be a love-it-or-hate-it thing...glad they worked for you. Dusty ad libbed that echoed "so very far away" line and put it on a separate track so I had flexibility with how to mix it. Must have tried a dozen different ways before settling on this one. The line is placed as a distant echo, so the presence and reverb pre-delay are dialed down relative to the lead vocals. Since the concept of being "so very far away" implies distance, I chose to pan the line from right to left so that it was "traveling". It was fun to figure out, but can be overdone, I think. Glad you liked it!
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Ron, super groove!
Great vocal and lyrics.
Super mix.
Loved those drums.
Outstanding delay - brilliant!
IMHO this is your best to date.
I just posted a selfie and all of the responses were get well soon!
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Nice one, Ron and crew! Man, I love those vocals, and yeah, I probably say that for all of your songs  Someone mentioned REM, and that was the first thought that came to me also while listening, definitely has that vibe. Excellent!
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Ron, super groove! Great vocal and lyrics. Super mix. Loved those drums. Outstanding delay - brilliant! IMHO this is your best to date. Mario, THANKS for the listen! So glad you liked it. Nice one, Ron and crew! Man, I love those vocals, and yeah, I probably say that for all of your songs Someone mentioned REM, and that was the first thought that came to me also while listening, definitely has that vibe. Excellent! Thanks, Dave! One day I'll post a song with my vocals, but honestly, Dusty just crushes everything, so why torture the listener? Had not thought about this being REM-like before I posted here, but now I get it. Michael Stipe just MIGHT be able to top Dusty on this one. Ha! Thanks for listen!
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Hi Ron.
Yet another excellent creation from you and your friends.
I love the driving rhythm section. It really made me sit up and pay attention when the song started!
The music and lyrics, the arrangement and the production are all very engaging.
Kudos to all of you.
I always enjoy listening to your work!
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Hi Ron. Yet another excellent creation from you and your friends. I love the driving rhythm section. It really made me sit up and pay attention when the song started! The music and lyrics, the arrangement and the production are all very engaging. Kudos to all of you. I always enjoy listening to your work!--Noel Thanks, Noel! So glad you liked this one.
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Ron, R.W., D.A., Y'all are putting out some of my favorite music on the forum. I'm curious about your creative process. Who are you guys? How did you get together? How does your flow go and happen? The songs are always well-penned, well-sung, well-arranged and produced and mixed. And catchy! Simple, sincere, sad. There is a lot of experimentation (not the right word) with drum patterns in today's music. I applaud your choice - though I thought it would be more effective if it had not been through the entire song ("chorus" only, maybe?). The choices in BIAB (for those kinds of drums) is limited. To be expected, I think since it's a once-in-a-while thing. Looking elsewhere since I don't seem to be smart enough to create that in a drum grid (Have you listened to "Neon Eyes"?) LOVE! what you guys are doing!!! fj
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Ron, R.W., D.A., Y'all are putting out some of my favorite music on the forum. I'm curious about your creative process. Who are you guys? How did you get together? How does your flow go and happen? The songs are always well-penned, well-sung, well-arranged and produced and mixed. And catchy! Simple, sincere, sad. There is a lot of experimentation (not the right word) with drum patterns in today's music. I applaud your choice - though I thought it would be more effective if it had not been through the entire song ("chorus" only, maybe?). The choices in BIAB (for those kinds of drums) is limited. To be expected, I think since it's a once-in-a-while thing. Looking elsewhere since I don't seem to be smart enough to create that in a drum grid (Have you listened to "Neon Eyes"?) LOVE! what you guys are doing!!!fj Floyd, THANKS for the listen and the kind remarks. Will briefly answer your questions in reverse order.... 1. Just listened to "Neon Eyes". Those are some BIG drums on the chorus indeed. 2. The "drum" sound on our song is a RealDrum track plus a percussion loop track included in the RealStyle. With a RealStyle like this I will sometimes drop out either the drum or the loop for a section, just to mix it up. It can provide contrast while maintaining rhythmic continuity. But for this song I kept them together for the entire song since in my mind the rhythm tracks represent the heartbeat of the narrator as his mind races through his loss. And life goes on, right? I do agree (and generally ascribe to) the theory that BIG sounds work best as an added dynamic element. 3. Our workflow starts with the lyrics. I'll write the music, arrange a scratch track in BiaB and record guide vocals and sometimes harmonies. If it turns out great we'll send it to Dusty for final vocals, harmonies and BGVs. Then I'll remix, etc. 4. Got together with my lyricist when he was born. He's my little brother. Found Dusty on the web but he's on speed dial now. 5. I'm an amateur musician and have been using BiaB since it was on 3.5" disks. My lyricist has a real job but has been writing lyrics as a hobby forever. Dusty is the pro musician. Anyway, so glad you enjoyed this tune, as well as our others. A little encouragement goes a long was for us. THANKS again!
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Hello Ron,
What a very nice song! You're doing great with all the songs I heard from you. No matter what mood they express, I always get a smile on my face.
In this song, the drums are excitingly present. I wondered if I would chose this kind of percussion in the song if it was mine.
But I really liked what I heard. The drums are a contrast with your singing. Very clever!
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! Hello Ron, What a very nice song! You're doing great with all the songs I heard from you. No matter what mood they express, I always get a smile on my face.
In this song, the drums are excitingly present. I wondered if I would chose this kind of percussion in the song if it was mine. But I really liked what I heard. The drums are a contrast with your singing. Very clever! Hans Hans, why, THANK YOU for the nice comments. The style I used on this one is titled "Inspire Cheery Indie Pop" so it doesn't sound like a good start for a song about death, does it? I wrote this song on guitar, input the chords and tempo into BiaB, then started auditioning styles in the pop genre. When I got to this style it sucked the song up like Dorothy's house in The Wizard of Oz. There was no turning back... Glad you liked it FWIW, my lyricist is the "clever" one. I'm just trying to keep up. Ha!
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Hi, Ron. Sounds great - Dusty's a talented singer, and you're an excellent arranger. Good job with the lyrics, too. I like the way it stays low-key, which is appropriate for the lyrics. I'll echo gman97040 - very REM-ish (or should I say "REMinishent"?) As always, love your stuff!
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Hi Ron.
I get a Michael Stipe - Losing my Religion vibe ( a good thing)
I get that you were trying to maintain the momentum of the track which you succeded in doing but I would have liked to hear a bit more light and shade with the "instrumentation" (is that a word?). I enjoyed it and your mixing/mastering is very good.
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Hi, Ron. Sounds great - Dusty's a talented singer, and you're an excellent arranger. Good job with the lyrics, too. I like the way it stays low-key, which is appropriate for the lyrics. I'll echo gman97040 - very REM-ish (or should I say "REMinishent"?) As always, love your stuff! David, ha! "REMinishent" is a VERY good one indeed. Glad you liked it! Hi Ron. I get a Michael Stipe - Losing my Religion vibe ( a good thing) I get that you were trying to maintain the momentum of the track which you succeded in doing but I would have liked to hear a bit more light and shade with the "instrumentation" (is that a word?). I enjoyed it and your mixing/mastering is very good. Izzy, THANKS for the listen and the input! "Instrumentation" is apparently used more in the technology field, but I know EXACTLY what you mean, so keep using it as far as I'm concerned. Ha!
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Very cool song. Really cool groove. Excellent vocal and lyric. Mix and production were first class. Well done..
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Great song, Ron, I enjoyed everything about it:
- nice melodic pop feel
- solid vocals, reminded me of Michael Stipe (REM)
- heartfelt lyrics
- tasty chord changes
- mix, arrangement, backing vocals all sounded great!
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Very cool song. Really cool groove. Excellent vocal and lyric. Mix and production were first class. Well done.. Scott, THANK YOU! Glad you like it.
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Personally I'd want the bass to match the kick - but that's a preference of the personal side.
I thought the phrasing of "Free from my mortal chains" was rushed by the Free part being a little too long.
Cool band you put together.
Cool vocals & Cool song.
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Good song! I, too, thought (at first) that the background drums were a little over-powering. However, they did start to grow on me, after a while Well done, great job.
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Great song, Ron, I enjoyed everything about it:- nice melodic pop feel - solid vocals, reminded me of Michael Stipe (REM) - heartfelt lyrics - tasty chord changes - mix, arrangement, backing vocals all sounded great! Bob, thank you for the listen and the nice review. Glad you liked it! Personally I'd want the bass to match the kick - but that's a preference of the personal side. I thought the phrasing of "Free from my mortal chains" was rushed by the Free part being a little too long. Cool band you put together. Cool vocals & Cool song. Ray, thanks for listening! I'm with you on bass and kick in general, but thought the whole note bass lines served the song in this case. Good call on the "Free..." line. Happy you found it cool just the same. (Weird thing about this post: I typed in "held bass lines" but it got changed to "hero bass lines". When I went back into the editor, the text still read "held bass lines" but got changed to "hero bass lines" when I saved it. Huh. So changed it to "whole note bass lines". That worked.) Good song! I, too, thought (at first) that the background drums were a little over-powering. However, they did start to grow on me, after a while Well done, great job. James, THANKS for giving the busy percussion a chance. Glad you liked it!
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Too many guitars (is that a thing?)
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Good collaboration, to be sure!
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Great song. Really loved the choice of drums.
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Good collaboration, to be sure! Dewey Dewey, THANKS for the listen! Great song. Really loved the choice of drums. THANK YOU, Gayle! Glad the drums worked for you. Honestly, I can't hear the song without them at this point.
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I like the way you panned the echo vocal "so far away."
Pleasant tune. A definite 80s vibe without any cheesy synths. Your friend sings this well.
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I like the way you panned the echo vocal "so far away." Pleasant tune. A definite 80s vibe without any cheesy synths. Your friend sings this well. Ezekiel, yeah, Dusty can really, REALLY sing. If I had his talent I no doubt would have made different choices in my life. Thanks for the listen!
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Pleasant pop song, okay the story is bit sad, but that's how life mostly is, going by too fast like those galloping drums tell me. Nice chord progression undecidedly somewhere between minor and major. The "very far away" adds some needed change in the slightly flat mood. The instrumentation is kept simple and so it is easy enjoy the airy mix. Great team work once again, sounds like a true pop orchestra on the rise in the indie world Janne
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Pleasant pop song, okay the story is bit sad, but that's how life mostly is, going by too fast like those galloping drums tell me. Nice chord progression undecidedly somewhere between minor and major. The "very far away" adds some needed change in the slightly flat mood. The instrumentation is kept simple and so it is easy enjoy the airy mix. Great team work once again, sounds like a true pop orchestra on the rise in the indie world Janne Janne, thanks for listening! You're right, while the key of B minor is implied, I substituted B2 for Bm in BiaB, which gives it that uncertain quality that seemed (to me) to fit the meditation of the narrator. Glad you liked it!
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